TEAMGROUP Memory D4 3200 16GB C16 Team Vulcan Z Grey K2

There's almost no performance difference in games between a 3400G and a 3200G, so get the 3200G instead.

Also, running integrated graphics makes it extremely reliant on having a dual channel memory kit, so you need to go with 2x4gb or 2x8gb. A 3200mhz kit isn't that expensive either nowadays, for example this kit goes for <$60

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T/

Buy this ram instead. It’s the same speed and $20 less

Use that money to buy a Ryzen 5 3600 instead of the 2600

How can I tell whether my RAM will work with my motherboard?

I am building my first PC using the Gigabyte B450m ds3h, and this RAM seemed pretty cheap, but still fast and by a reputable brand. I don't know much about RAM compatibility, so will that kit work at full speed on my motherboard? The rest of my components include a Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX 1650 super. Thanks!

16GB is necessary for almost anything gaming. Prices might not be better, this is the best they've been in a long time for ram. Those ripjaws are too expensive right now, you can get these which are virtually the same thing. https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=team+vulcan+3200&qid=1589864921&sr=8-1

Honestly half the trouble is just finding parts that are in stock. I'd prefer if possible to order it all in one order on amazon for simplicity and delivery rate.

What are your thoughts on a Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan Z?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

If you want to game on this build then this build is fantastic, but you do anything else on your pc (like phot/video editing, 3d modelling,etc..) then you should opt for AMD. the Ryzen 9 3900x is a fantastic processor and it will just cost you 30$ more Than the Intel i9. For that money you get 4 extra cores which shred though multithreaded workloads. You can also save a few bucks but opting for a 240mm liquid cooler. 3 fans are a bit unnecessary. You can opt for team t forrce RGB memory which will cost you way less than Corsair. (https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=team%2Btforce%2Bram&qid=1600624544&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFWTlBJSlIwRFFXWEkmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAxODA4MzAxN09KMFRSVk5RNkFWJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA2MjU0MDJYQk5RTzVFTlk5V1Qmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1). They have a good reputation among users.

This vs the TEAMGROUP RAM posted earlier?

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-M%C3%B3dulo-memoria-Upgrade/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=ddr4%2B16gb%2B3200&qid=1589789252&sr=8-7&th=1&psc=1

Will this RAM work with the B450 Mortar Max and will run at 3200mhz?? Teamgroup's site only says it's compatible with the Mortar and it's not listed MSI's mortar max's support list

These? Are the a little smaller than the Corsair Vengeance? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WUxfFbGQRM33C

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mBdLFbFCXCRHF

T force vulcan

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 this is $63

That ram is just a place holder. How is this ram? TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz (PC4 25600) CL16 Desktop Memory Module Ram - Gray - TLZGD416G3200HC16CDC01 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_RebkFbAJ7WMQ9

TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz (PC4 25600) CL16 Desktop Memory Module Ram - Gray - TLZGD416G3200HC16CDC01 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_xCvCFbV30X4HA

Wtf, why not just buy this for $8 more??

Vengeance RAM is already kind of overpriced... here's a different brand that charges $64 for the same speed RAM. And to see 32GB of the Vengeance stuff cost $210 is hilarious.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_LGOqFb6KVDVBJ

Only 5$ more than what OP said

If you wanna cut down cost try looking for a cheaper case and motherboard. Also go for a faster ram speed as well cause 2400 is slow for Ryzen. If you can go for 3200 TeamGroup 2x8GB 3200mhz Ram for $58

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T

This is the fastest you can go with that board. I have the same cpu and it performs well with the linked ram.

You don't need thermal paste or the CPU cooler. The CPU comes with a stock cooler and thermal paste already applied.

Why are you buying two separate sticks of RAM? You could get a pack of 2x8GB with a higher speed (3200) for about the same price I would think. Here's an example.

That SSD seems kind of expensive. Have you looked at WD M.2 SSDs? They'll be faster, easier to install and should be about the same price. Here's an example.

your bottlenecking your rtx 3070 with the ryzen 3 3100, so try getting at least a ryzen 5 3600, or ryzen 7 3700, and try getting faster ram, 2400mghz is really slow. Get this ram: https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=team+force+vulcan&qid=1608004600&sr=8-2

RAM is so confusing to me.

Is this kit better than these?

TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz

Or

Patriot Viper Steel Series DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz

Is there a web tool to compare all this stuff? I feel like I'm drowning.

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=3200mhz+16gb&qid=1595613887&s=electronics&sr=1-5
With the money saved have a check if you can upgrade the 3100 to the 3300x while staying within the 700 dollars mark

Is lower latency better than a higher Mhz?

1. 2x8gb 3200mhz CL16 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T637L7T/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AWD7GDDT7Q2ZT&th=1

2. 2x8gb 3600mhz CL18 https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331542?Description=vulcan%2016gb%203600mhz&cm_re=vulcan_16gb%203600mhz--20-331-542--Product

the 3600mhz from newegg is only $3 more but higher CL, which is better?

$2000 for light office work/productivity/stock trading is definitely a bit of an overkill budget, but what you've built is a totally solid current-gen gaming PC and I'm sure he'll love it. Some things that catch my eye though are the 1tb SSD and 2tb HDD, is he storing any meaningfully large files? Hard drive space is relatively cheap but you could probably cut that SSD space in half (unless he personally needs it). If you don't even care about saving money and are just trying to hit that price point then a 1tb SSD could be totally fine as well, and I'm not personally sure where the savings could even be used meaningfully in that computer.

Also, Ryzen specifically benefits from faster memory speeds/timings, and your kit has slightly lower timings and speeds than I'd feel happy with in a computer so expensive. Assuming you live in the US, I found a kit of 3200MHz CL16 for only $3 more on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=16gb+ddr4+3200&qid=1597705496&sr=8-5

Please note you might be able to find a better deal on different brands/listings/websites, I skimmed it quickly.

Thats really all I can help with, maybe other people will give some better tips. Good luck with your build!

For the ram I suggest this set:

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T

This graphics card might be a bit of a stretch but if you can afford it this one would be a significant upgrade over the 2060. The 5700xt is an amd graphics card that has around 2070 super performance. People have had issues with this card before (crashing in games) but it's fixed now.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Gaming-Radeon-Boost-Clock/dp/B07WNSP41M

First time builder.

I have an ASUS Prime B450M-A/CSM motherboard, and I'm having a lot of trouble finding compatible RAM. I see there is a bunch of RAM listed on the "compatible memory" area of their website, but a lot of the RAM with the specs I am looking for seem to be discontinued or pretty pricey.

The RAM I was looking at was the G.Skill Ripjaws V or the T-Force Vulcan. Both are on sale today, so I wanted to snag these, but they aren't showing up. These seem like very popular RAM, so I am confused as to why these wouldn't show up as one of the compatible memories on the website.

Am I doing any of this right?

Well, that should be all :)

I'll just say that if you were to buy 3200MHz CL16 it would be a bit better, for example this, the best quality/price ratio offering at the moment: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T637L7T?pf_rd_r=KJB6TZVNCGTR4BVFQ9PP&pf_rd_p=6fc81c8c-2a38-41c6-a68a-f78c79e7253f

But getting 3200MHz RAM that is RGB can get expensive... An alternative could be getting the RAM I just linked plus an RGB strip, or an RGB/Led fan to add to the system, well, you'll see what works best for you...

Finally, in case you'd want something a bit stronger than the 3200G or if the 3200G isn't available anywhere when you'll buy the parts there's the Ryzen 5 3400G (with this CPU the other parts can stay the same, no need to change anything) but it's quite a bit more expensive...

And yeah, I agree on the performances, it's something I would've never expected some years ago for a CPU alone, especially one priced at only 100$

First of all don't ever buy a pre built, they cheap out on parts and they are a horrible value. DIY PC for 800$.

The best thing you can do is to add a ssd (for OS and few select number of games) and upgrade to a set of 16gb of ram

I'd suggest going with this t-force ram kit that should provide identical performance for a better price and switching out to this case. Other than that everything is looking good!

Edit: also this gpu might be a better alternative.

Id keep the psu,gpu and pc case and just buy a new cpu, motherboard and ram and just upgrade the gpu later on as the r9 280x is still halfway decent and its better then make sure the system is up to date.

1.) MOTHERBOARD ASUS Prime B550M-A -$150

2.) AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler- $174

3.) TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz (PC4 25600) CL16 Desktop Memory Module Ram - Gray - TLZGD416G3200HC16CDC01 -$58

https://www.amazon.com/OLOy-288-Pin-Desktop-Gaming-MD4U0832160BJ0DA/dp/B088T2KNZ4/

Or

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T

Or if you want rgb:

https://www.amazon.com/OLOy-Warhawk-288-Pin-Desktop-MD4U0832160BE0DA/dp/B0894H3LS4/

|Component|Title|Price| |:-|:-|:-| |CPU|Ryzen 7 2700|$275 (Amazon US)|) |Motherboard|ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4|$131 (Amazon US)|) |GPU 1|PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 5600 XT|$319 (Amazon US)|) |RAM 1|(2x8GB) TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 3200|$61 (Amazon US)|) |Storage 1|TC SUNBOW 1TB SSD|[$86 (Amazon US)](https://www.amazon.com/dp/

A little underbudget. But its still a good setup

Ryzen 3 3200g

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3200G-Unlocked-Processor/dp/B07STGHZK8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=amd+ryzen+3+3200g&qid=1600901484&sprefix=amd+ryzen+3&sr=8-1

Mainboard

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450M-DS3H-Ryzen-Motherboard/dp/B07FWVJSHC/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=amd+motherboard&qid=1600900797&sprefix=amd+m&sr=8-3

Power supply

https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-RM850x-Certified-Modular-Supply/dp/B079HGL413/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=power%2Bsupply%2B850w&qid=1600900823&sprefix=power&sr=8-6&th=1&psc=1

Case

https://www.amazon.com/NZXT-H510-Management-Water-Cooling-Construction/dp/B07TC76671/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=pc+case&qid=1600900845&sprefix=pc+case&sr=8-3

16gb RAM ddr4 3200mhz

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=16gb+ddr4+3200&qid=1600900941&sprefix=16gb+ddr&sr=8-4

GTX 1650 super

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Gaming-Backplate-04G-P4-1357-KR/dp/B081R425YH/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=gtx+1650+super&qid=1600901068&sprefix=gtx+165&sr=8-3

RX 580 8gb

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-1386MHz-Graphics-RX-580P8DFD6/dp/B06Y66K3XD/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=amd+rx+580&qid=1600901426&sprefix=amd+rx+&sr=8-3

1080p 144hertz

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-KG241Q-Pbiip-FREESYNC-Technology/dp/B07MG85X1M/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=144+hertz+monitor&qid=1600901559&sprefix=144+hertz+&sr=8-5

-+-+-+- By the way im not a big expert and i may be wrong about the parts +-+---

CPU: R5 3600 $200
Motherboard $72
16 GB RAM $55
600 W PSU $55
1 TB NVME SSD $120
Case: Fractal Design Focus G $50
Total: $552

Given the announcement of how stupidly powerful the upcoming Nvidia 3000 series cards are, You'll probably be able to find a used 2070 or 2080 for $200 in the next several weeks, bringing total cost up to $750.

I made some adjustments. My goal is to have a decent multi-use machine around $1,500. Games will always be the focus but editing and rendering will be important for me as well.

|Component|Title|Price| |:-|:-|:-| |CPU|Ryzen 9 3900X|$429.00 (Amazon US)|) |Motherboard|ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4|$114.99 (Amazon US)|) |GPU 1|Geforce RTX 2080|$579.99 (Amazon US)|) |RAM 1|(2x8GB) TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 3200|$57.99 (Amazon US)|) |Storage 1|Crucial P1 1TB|$104.99 (Amazon US)|) |PSU|Corsair RM650|$105.75 (Amazon US)|) |Case|AeroCool Cylon RGB|$49.23 (Amazon US)|) |CPU Cooler|NZXT Kraken X53|$138.99 (Amazon US)|) | | | | |Total Price|$1580.93| |

Motherboard: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089FT8G44/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_Y1gUFb5SQ05BM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Power supply: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0838YDBP3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_a4gUFbMHHZSQX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Case fans (replace ones on aio so that it will match with whole system.): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HKB1NT3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_44gUFbB0XSRQT?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Liquid aio cpu cooler: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829RTMKY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_d6gUFbHQCHW6Z?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Pc case (i can change it if you do not like the look, just keep in mind there will be 6 rgb fans in it as well.): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C74694Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_g7gUFbSEBAZ9T?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

New cpu: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089WC4VWF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_A9gUFbFQK2TZG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

RAM: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_29gUFbKDH7CDD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

And the heart of the system the graphics card: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184542734524

Let me know if the graphics card goes out of stock it is showing last one on eBay so someone might buy it before you, just let me know.

Hopefully I got everything, and I hope you like it.

|Component|Title|Price| |:-|:-|:-| |CPU|Ryzen 7 3700X|$304.99 (Amazon US)|) |Motherboard|MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX|$114.99 (Amazon US)|) |GPU 1|MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super Gaming X|$269.99 (Amazon US)|) |RAM 1|(2x8GB) TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 3200|$59.99 (Amazon US)|) |Storage 1|Samsung 970 Evo 1TB|$129.99 (Amazon US)|) |PSU|EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G+|$98.99 (Amazon US)|) |Case|Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case|$89.99 (Custom Price)|) |Case Fan 1|upHere Computer Case Fan 120mm LED Silent Fan for Computer C|$17.99 (Amazon US)|) |Monitor 1|Sceptre 24" Curved 144Hz Gaming LED Monitor Full HD 1080P HD|$158.97 (Custom Price)|) |CPU Cooler|darkFlash Shadow PWM|$29.00 (Amazon US)|) |OS|Microsoft Windows 10 Home USB Flash Drive|$129.99 (Amazon US)|) | | | | |Total Price|$1404.88| | |Generated by BuildCores|BuildCores for iOS|BuildCores for Android|

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