Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM, High Performance Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 1700 RPM (120mm, Grey)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1Z5H6ZGWCMTNX&psc=1

So these are the fans I was looking at getting. I'm assuming the tiny 0.09A on the back of the fan is the amps? meaning that I would be fine plugging two of them into one 4 pin slot correct?

I had the same fans for a year or two and they sounded awful (bearings went bad). Switched over to these and haven’t had a problem since. They are amazing fans and are a little expensive but are worth it IMO.

I recently bought Noctua p12s and they are rather quiet, even when I have them maxed out. They are 4 pin fans. I'm looking into getting a fan splitter also (just made a post about it on the ASRock reddit) as I ran out of headers. I'm concerned about pulling to much power off the header with multiple fans.

I currently have the Lancool II Mesh RGB as well and adding a rear exhaust fan will absolutely help a good bit. There's also space for 2 120mm fans on the top of the case and on top of the PSU shroud. I may have gone a little overboard and currently have 8 fans in it, the 3 RGB as front intake and then 5 Noctua NF-P12s, 2 as intake on the PSU shroud, 2 as exhaust at the top and 1 more for exhaust at the rear. Fantastic fans for the price and you avoid the dreaded Noctua brown color.

Just a heads up that there are Noctua’s on Amazon that are cheaper and perform better and quieter. Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM, High Performance Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 1700 RPM (120mm, Grey) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_t5-1FbZ87RTFX

It's rated for 1100-1800 RPM, which is quite fast for only pushing 33CFM. Corasir's LL120s are rated for 600-1500 RPM, topping out at 43.25CFM, though it is a lot more expensive. If you are looking solely for good airflow, the Noctua Redux fans are just their regular fans (one of the best for performance), except there's 0 cosmetics on it, just a factory gray color, all for $10-15 per fan.

LL120

NF-P12 Redux (450-1700 RPM | 120.2 CFM | $13.90 per fan)

There's also an Aura Sync compatible RGB fan set from darkFlash that's around $9 per fan. Though it's only static at 1200 RPM, it's pushing 38 CFM.

Got it!

I ordered this beauty: https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6

That should be a good intake fan, right? Should I place this in the middle for maximum intake air performance?

Noctua redux, I've got like 10 of these between my 2 PCs, they're solid

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IwJbFb3TYVFP9

Glad to hear I could help!

I’m pretty sure that m.2 is faster than SATA, but I’m not entirely sure.

When it comes to Noctua, you’re right about most of them being brown. However, there are a few that aren’t, such as this one(didn’t realize how long the link was): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EgbpFbKAT2944

Also, make sure to be REALLY careful when handling the tempered glass panels. If one of those drops, well, you’ll have one hell of a mess to clean up, but I guess ask slightly improved airflow?

And lastly, do you have a new link for the parts list, or is it the same?

P.S. make sure that you understand the warnings that pcpartpicker shows. Also, if where you live frequently, or even occasionally, has power issues, it’s worth spending an extra $100 and getting a UPS.

I would say that investing in higher-quality fans is worth it, especially if you're getting PWM fans. Having a fan with PWM means that you can control a fan's speed through your motherboard BIOS, which lets you set different profiles that optimize for silence, airflow, or both. Noctua fans in particular are top of the line when it comes to airflow, and in an ITX case with very limited space for air to cycle through, that extra performance counts. You can get a really good Noctua NF-P12 for around $14 on Amazon.

Also, you might want to make sure that the TU150 case can support those two 120mm fans on the bottom while there is a graphics card mounted. If the case is small enough or the graphics card is thick enough, there might not be enough room to be able to mount the fans and the graphics card at the same time.

I added 3 of Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM, High Performance Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 1700 RPM (120mm, Grey) for the top of the case.. Don't seem to have enough fan ports on the motherboard? Is there some sort of special way to get to do it like connectors?

Oh and you need some case fans Get like 3 of theses maybe: https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1&keywords=case+fan&qid=1591552513&s=electronics&sr=1-12

I used 120mm noctua fans. 2 in the front and 1 for the rear. They're great fans, however install was kind of a pain. This might be just me being new but I had to self thread each corner of the fan before mounting. Not sure if its required but made it easier for sure.

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I don't know why everyone has such a hard on for the A12x25s, you can also get the NF-P12 redux fans (which are grey!) for half the price and still have Noctua. The A12 is only marginally better.

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM, High Performance Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 1700 RPM (120mm, Grey) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_SurEFb7GVM4JN

Can anyone answer me if there is a disadvantage to running case fans on molex? My intake fans are set up this way, and as you mentioned it allows the cable management to go directly behind my mobo.

Truth be told I'm kinda a noob with PC building. I purchased a prebuilt 1 year ago and I'm slowly updating parts as needed. Just this week I bought 3 new Noctua fans to replace my intake fans on the front https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6

These are 4-pin cables. I could only find one 4 pin slot on my mobo (sys fan 1). Should I connect these fans through some splitter I need to buy, or can I just get 4-pin to molex adapters and power them the same way my old intakes are getting power? Can they utilize PWM if powered through molex, which I think is going straight to my power supply?

Or do I need to find a 3 way splitter that can connect to my sys fan 1 connection on the mobo?

The Cooler Master G100M is a nice RGB cooler for $40, the 212 Black Edition is $35-$38.

If you want more silence, you could slap on 1-2 $13 Noctua Redux fans on it.

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM, High Performance Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 1700 RPM (120mm, Grey) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_iKmcEb8Q77C28

Really good fans, pure performance no jazz

3x Yate Loon D14SL-12 from eBay, default nzxt H510 case fan, Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM

What part is getting to 100c, CPU or GPU?

I'm guessing GPU as your case is unfortunately not great for airflow. I would suggest starting by installing static pressure focused fans. 3 120mm fans in the front and 1 in the back exhausting. 4 of these Noctua fans should help you get significantly more air through your case keeping tempuratures down.

It looks like it has 2 fans up front so you would just need to get a fan for the back exhaust. Any old 120mm case fan should do the trick.

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=case+fan&qid=1580254434&sr=8-1

Is something like this fine? Also how many fans are in the cooler?

https://www.amazon.com/NF-P12-redux-1700-PWM-refrigeración-rendimiento/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=120mm+fan&qid=1599573250&sprefix=120mm+fan&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzUkdEUExEQzlJV05ZJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjc3ODU1MTlQSFZOUFRKVDdQTCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTkxNjI1OVBMWVQ1ODBUWUlGJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

I've been looking at this case fan. The Amazon page for my case says it can hold 2 140mm or 3 120mm. I just don't know what fan speeds I need. Do I want to balance the intake and exhaust? So the same speed and size on both ends?

120mm fans are also on sale

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM, High Performance Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 1700 RPM (120mm, Grey) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2luqFbJ57JWEA

If you don't actually need more airflow, move the top fan to the front. If you want more airflow, get two static pressure fans like the Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM

Thanks for all the thought put into this response, it's awesome. So what I'm thinking is to replace my back exhaust fan with a nice noctua fan and use some fans in the top as more intake. That should be totally fine right? Just want to make sure I'm not missing something

But yeah, you're right that I want to keep the rgb front fans for now. It's my first build so I'm going through the rgb phase. I may change them out after I get tired of rgb and can get better performing fans, but that may be a while

What about this? https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=cpu+fan&qid=1593788797&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExU0lMU1lJTklQRTRRJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDI5NDY5MUVRT05QVko4M0FVRyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTkxNjI1OVBMWVQ1ODBUWUlGJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

\> I'm thinking is to replace my back exhaust fan with a nice noctua fan and use some fans in the top as more intake.

That's what I would do, yeah. Noctua is awesome.

And that would definitely help with intake. If I understand your case correctly, currently you have no fans doing intake, all three of your current fans are pointing outwards, which means that incoming air is coming from random openings in the case -- and while that is a very common setup, it's far from ideal for air flow. It means that the fans are creating low pressure inside the case to suck in air from random places. It's better to have good intake fans bringing the pressure up closer to neutral or even higher pressure than ambient air outside the case, so that the hot air in the case "is eager to find ways to get out", to anthropomorphize. :) And that decreases the load on the outtake fans, which can increase their cubic-foot-per-minute airflow rate.

It sounds like you've done enough research that you probably know that dust collection is a very real issue, and needs to be cleaned out usually at least every 6 months, but sometimes more often for dusty environments.

\> I may change them out after I get tired of rgb and can get better performing fans

Right. Maybe they're not a big issue once you do the other upgrades? The fact that they are huge (200mm) would probably make them perform better and quieter (if they're hooked up to 4 pin PWM for variable speed) than more standard sized (140mm / 120mm) random-quality fans, especially once you give them that help from upgrading other fans.

In other words, huge fans that aren't one of the best brands, *but* that aren't spinning at top speed, might be reasonably quiet while providing enough air flow, and that's going to be helped by you improving the back fan and adding two new fans, so your 2 front fans may not have to work as hard as they perhaps currently do.

That's just guess work; you'll have to judge them. Your components will last longer and often be higher performance the better you cool them, but beyond a certain point it's about your tolerance to fan noise, which is a subjective matter of taste.

\> It's my first build so I'm going through the rgb phase.

Congratulations on your first build! Every time I do a build (I just did one for the first time in years) it improves ones understanding of the current (and always changing over time) characteristics of PC components, which can only be good. It's great to understand what you use, rather than its internals being a black-box mystery.

Some people are hugely anti-RGB, but clearly it's just a matter of taste. You do you. I understand people saying that RGB is over the top, but I personally am kind of attracted to bling to some extent. I can't use it in my current environment because I need lower light levels, but also because my wife has more refined tastes than me. :)

And thanks for the thanks, that's nice to hear.

I got 2 of Noctua NF-P12 redux 1700PWM High performance cooling fan.

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM, High Performance Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 1700 RPM (120mm, Grey) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_FCYWEbNQNY9YB

What’s the difference?

These fans have a really good reputation and aren't stupid expensive.

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=be+quiet+silent+wings+3&qid=1599347920&sprefix=be+quirt+sil&sr=8-5

pwm p12s redux 1700rpm $13.90 https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=noctua+pwm+140mm&qid=1595362921&sr=8-14

pwm p14s redux 1200 rpm $14.95 https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Bearing-NF-P14s-redux-1200-PWM/dp/B00KF7Q4WG/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=noctua+pwm+140mm&qid=1595362921&sr=8-10

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Redux fans don't come with anti-vibrations pads/stock brown pad sometimes. Add another 3.50$ per fan (16 pack=$7=2 fans)

I have this case and the airflow for this is amazing for its budget. I bought a total of 3 fans from Noctua. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KdZHFbACKGVAD There are probably better and cheaper options.

You get two stock fans from this case and I put them on top as exhaust. I put two fans in the front as intake and one in the back as exhaust (Noctua)

You should also check out this video from Gamer Nexus as he reviewed it as well. https://youtu.be/Sytapy-WNs8

Edit: Spell check

So PWM fans can go slower than DC fans, allowing them to be quieter when you don’t need them. Those arctic fans will get the job done but it looks like they’re fixed speed and aren’t as customizable for curve. I have two of these 120mm Noctua fans but they also have 140mm Noctua Fans as well. The 140mm are pricy (my 120s were $9 each) but they do some with some nice bonuses like vibration dampeners. If you want a solid budget pwm fan, there is a cheap PWM version of the fan you picked there: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J76IYL4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_s6NGEbRHMV4GV I would go for this one since it’s way less than the Noctua option and still can be controlled through the motherboard so it’s not running full blast all the time.

Here a PcPartPicker list that I put together that should be around €700. The prices on PC parts jump around allot so if it's going for a lot more than €700, then the price should be down the next day. Also you will need to buy another fan for the back of the case. (I would get this one)

Noctua Redux Fans are always a good choice.. but with performance you get the color scheme

if you want Color... Corsair AF120 3 pack for $30 is hard to beat its red only.. but its a quality fan for a decent price

Get one of these cables, 2 of these fans, a few zip ties and you're golden ponyboy.

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5700-rx-5700-evoke/p/N82E16814137520

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L9T4YC2/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_oHsLEb1JJW8Y2 (Comes with 2 sets of retainer clips)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share (One fan should do fine)

Make sure your case has good airflow, meaning more than 3 fan areas so front,top, back and possibly side

You want fans like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=120mm+noctua+fan&qid=1580587846&refinements=p_89%3ANoctua&rnid=2528832011&s=electronics&sr=1-3

Also don't go overboard with the fan. You don't need as many as you think. One pulling air in from the front, one exhausting out the back. MAYBE if you have a lot of hard drives you'll want them positioned strategically so they are in the way of the fans and get a bit of active air flow. Beyond that, you're just making noise and dust for no reason.

If you want to clean the fan you can do that with air cans and micro-fiber cloths. If you feel the need to tear-apart the fan to its base components, then you are wasting your time and risking yourself a lot of problems when you try to put the fan back together. Just get a new fan, here are a couple examples:

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-A12x25-PWM-Premium-Quality-Quiet/dp/B07C5VG64V/

I know it's a tad over your budget but this is the sweet spot for a mini itx build in light of the new cards coming out in October

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V4vwNq

If you have any questions please feel free to ask

Oh If you have any 120mm fans, this case works best with at least 2+ fans

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM,

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lxctFb0KNTTF1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MCHLGC5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_czctFbKZY5CAC

Or if you don't mind the tan color these are the best 120mm fans---

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C5VG64V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_syctFbBMP8ZZB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Best Buy)

Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ B&H)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($61.99 @ Amazon)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)

Case: Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($102.99 @ B&H)

Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion SFX-L 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($127.98 @ B&H)

----Total: $1102.93_---------

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-30

The fan on the back of my case:

Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, Heavy Duty Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 3000 RPM (140mm, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KFCRF1A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabt1_pdeXFbRVY92PM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Lower front fan:

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Upper front fan:

Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KF7O58G?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I have two rigs - both of which have Noctua fans. My main computer has a single 120mm Noctua NF-F12 for exhaust and two 140mm NF-A14s for intake. My secondary HTPC has two NF-P12 redux's (one intake, one exhaust). Are these things pricey? Hell yes. Are they worth the money? Yes. The two 140s in my main computer are recent additions because last year, I bought a five pack of cheap LED fans for $30. Three of them are now dead (the other two are still in top exhaust configuration). I'd much rather eat the price on good stuff that will last for a good ten years and be able to go into multiple builds than have to replace cheap shit every year or two.

As far as the color, well, you can see there are some options. The industrial models are black and there are grey versions as well. These aren't quiet fans at full speed, but they rarely run at full speed to begin with (and even if they did, I always have a fan going anyways - I actually get weirded out if I don't hear fan noise, but that's just me). The noise that you do hear isn't excessive at all in my opinion.

If you've got money to spare, the $20 Noctua Fans are the best fans for airflow and silence you can buy.

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For $14 you can go for these other Noctua Fans that are still great quality.

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If you really wanna save money you can go for these $4.33 each ($13 pack) Fan Pack, but remember you get what you pay for.

I've done some of the above in my TS-873. Last weekend I added heatsinks to my m.2's, replaced the chassis fans with Noctuas (NF-P12 Redux-1700 PWM), and dropped in a GTX 1650 (non-super). I ordered some similar vibration isolation blocks but haven't used them yet.

Parts:

• Heatsink: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GV3RV23/
• Heatsink thermal interface (higher heat transfer than what comes with the heatsinks): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZSJQX0E/
• Fans: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6/
• GPU: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1650-gv-n1656oc-4gd/p/N82E16814932287

I'm annoyed by how odd the CPU fan is; I haven't been able to identify a suitable replacement without doing something wholly custom.

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-F12-chromax-Black-swap-Premium-Grade-Quiet/dp/B07654PNFQ/ref=zg_bs_11036291_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z68YRW0T58N5PD70X3Q8

They make a ton of models, but the F12s are extremely popular and would never be a bad option.

Here are some of their slightly cheaper priced line that I am sure are also excellent and the #1 case fan on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=zg_bs_11036291_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z68YRW0T58N5PD70X3Q8

Well, I did a fair amount of searching and this was my build list, more or less:

Motherboard & CPU:
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-rack-epyc3251d4i-2t-supports-amd-ryzen-threadripper-processors/p/N82E16813140038?Item=N82E16813140038

Case:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LHF4FO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8

RAM:
64 GB ECC

SSD (Boot):
1 TB Samsung EVO

HDD:
6 x 10 TB Seagate Ironwolf
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H241VK4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s04?ie=UTF8

Cooling:
2 x Noctua NF-P12 (System & HDDs)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8

1 x Noctua NF-A6x25 (CPU)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VXTANZ4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8

Silicone Cooling Mounts (for CPU mounting):
https://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Rubber-Cooling-Mounts-Anti-Vibration/dp/B00MPEBVRA

The system runs Ubuntu 20.04 LTS with a 60 TB ZFS RAID-Z1 array and has been running continuously since I built it almost a year ago in December 2019.

Fans Need 2
Radiator
Fittings Only needed 2
Elbow Fittings Only need 2 for CPU
Elbow Fittings (Barb Only) Only need 2 for GPU (Can't close side)
Plugs (don't actually need as GPU has it's own)
GPU Block MAKE SURE IT FITS YOUR CARD (THEN DOUBLE TRIPLE CHECK)
GPU Backplate
Hose PLENTY of extra
Coolant only uses about 300mL of a 1000mL bottle