MSI Gaming GeForce GTX 1650 128-Bit HDMI/DP/DVI 4GB GDRR5 HDCP Support DirectX 12 VR Ready OC Low Profile Bracket Included Graphics Card (GTX 1650 4GT LP OC)

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HP Z230 SFF - GTX 1650 - I5-4590 - 16gb Ram - 512gb SSD - WiFi/BT

This is a great little 1080P gaming machine (measuring just 4"x13"x15")

It runs very cool and quiet, and the 1650 has a surprising amount of power. Comes with HP keyboard, mouse, HDMI cable, and fresh install of Windows 10 Pro.

Sold to GeneralDouglasMac for $360

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GTX 1650 LP: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-128-Bit-Included-Graphics/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/

Only pulls 75W max from the motherboard.

Something like i5-4570 CPU upgrade should work

Get this card it doesn’t need an external power connector from your PSU

MSI Gaming GeForce GTX 1650 128-Bit HDMI/DP/DVI 4GB GDRR5 HDCP Support DirectX 12 VR Ready OC Low Profile Bracket Included Graphics Card (GTX 1650 4GT LP OC) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QpipFbSKMG5Z8

with the small form factor case and 240 PSU seems like this is the ticket, am I right about that?

Great price especially with the 500gb SSD. Just find any half height GPU like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_RCSXEbFB3802K

And you have a very budget little 1080p system. You don't have to get a 1650 either way, it's just one of the first options when looking up a half height GPU.

He gets a solid 60fps in fortnite on a 1080p monitor. Has an Intel i5 4570 in it as well

MSI Gaming GeForce GTX 1650 128-Bit HDMI/DP/DVI 4GB GDRR5 HDCP Support DirectX 12 VR Ready OC Low Profile Bracket Included Graphics Card (GTX 1650 4GT LP OC) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_595gFb0REQ6JF

We need to know what power supply, motherboard and case you have. Generally pre-built have low capacity power supplies and some may not have additional plugs available for gpus. The motherboard needs a slot available and the case must be of a compatible size.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN

An example of a low profile gpu that you could add

If it's a small form factor, you're looking at something like this, maybe.

any low profile version should not require a 6 pin connector

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=low+profile+gtx+1650&qid=1586583206&sr=8-1

that one certainly doesn't

But I don't know, paying $180 for a gtx 1650 is a nearly a scam. Way too damn expensive given an rx 580 8gb is the same price and has much better performance.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZTXYVMN

I’m not 100% on this... but I read you could use up to a single slot 1650.

MSI Gaming GeForce GTX 1650 128-Bit HDMI/DP/DVI 4GB GDRR5 HDCP Support DirectX 12 VR Ready OC Low Profile Bracket Included Graphics Card (GTX 1650 4GT LP OC) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_XTgkEbRV8MWY6

There is a GTX 1650 LP card now

May be a solid upgrade for the GPU

link

This card is about as good as you're going to get unless you're willing to run the PC without the cover on it or cut a hole in it for a full sized card to stick out, and you'd have to replace your power supply for a notably more powerful card anyway.

Dell Optiplex 9010 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-9010-MT-i5-3570-3-4GHz-8GB-Ram-500GB-HDD-Win-10-Pro/303586447928?hash=item46af299238:g:LkAAAOSwbGZe2AWZ GTX 1650 LP - https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN

This would kill a switch. In exchange for giving up portability you get performance and flexibility.

here ya go

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=gtx+1650+low+profile&qid=1597264017&sprefix=gtx+1650&sr=8-4

and here’s the office pc

https://www.amazon.com/HP-8300-Elite-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=hp+8300+elite+small+form+factor+desktop+computer&qid=1597264067&refinements=p_36%3A2421880011&rnid=2421879011&s=pc&sprefix=hp+8300&sr=1-3

yeah i know that's why i was planning on using this gpu > https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=sr_1_1?currency=EUR&dchild=1&keywords=nvidia%20gtx%201650%20low%20profile&language=en_US&qid=1597443678&sr=8-1
it's a pretty good bang for the buck and it doesn't need external PCIe connectors.

i would go used, maybe this one, with a small form factor gpu, like this one

this already has an ssd and a hard drive, 8gb of ram, and should support the gtx 1650. i completely agree with u/Jonah-1903 that this is much better value than buing new :)

edit: make sure you pick the ssd and 8gb option, if not, it probably wont have 8gb and an ssd (obviously)

Yea something like this should fit in your optiplex - https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/

I used to have an Optiplex 9010 and I ran this card in it - https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1050-TI-4GT/dp/B01N2W8MJ9

Really, nobody suggested you buy used?

i5-3570, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, PSU, Case, Windows 10 - $100

GTX 1650 LOW-PROFILE - $190

Low profile version is important for this particular chassis, as otherwise it won't fit and/or the computer won't have enough power to run it. Put the two purchases together and you should be able to manage medium-high settings at 60+ frames per second in most games.

Logitech has an honestly underrated mouse/keyboard combo for like $15, you should be able to get a decent used 1080p monitor for $70, cheapo (but usable) speakers for $15 so all-in-all $390 for a whole gaming rig.

Though I'd personally recommend springing $70 on a Crucial MX500 500GB SSD for quality of life (Just make sure you uninstall Windows on existing hard drive and unplug the SATA cable during installation on SSD, this is a known bug work-around).

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN this is a lower profile card that doesn't even need additional power, might be a good fit while giving you decent 1080p performance at mid settings

Yes. See my post above. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZTXYVMN/

Yep that's an SFF chassis, so you're limited to half-height/low profile cards. Here's some good options for you:

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=1650+low+profile&qid=1586095526&sprefix=1650+low&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Graphics-Windforce-Gv-N1650OC-4GL/dp/B081L3PSGK/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=1650+low+profile&qid=1586095560&sprefix=1650+low&sr=8-2

These should just drop in no problem.

id try like a gt1030 or a gtx1650 low profile https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN

Ah, no problem, GPU (graphics processing unit) and graphics card are used basically interchangeably, I was just abbreviating.

The good news is that CPU is powerful enough to power most games at 60 frames per second.

The bad news is, while that case will fit a SFF GPU (I was looking at the wrong thing inititally), the most powerful GPU they make in that size is a GTX 1650. So that is a decent card, but it's only around 60% as powerful as the GTX 1070 you mentioned. Remember when searching for small GPUs there are basically two types that might come up when you search for "SFF graphics card": the first is the "short" type, which is the standard size in terms of the bracket on the back of the PC (so standard in terms of distance the card sticks out from the PCIe slot) - the second is the "slim" type, which can be longer but is "slim" in terms of having a shorter bracket on the back and a shorter distance in terms of how far it sticks out from the PCIe slot. You're in the second category, where there are less powerful cards available than in the first.

So something like this would be just about the most graphics horsepower you can currently put in there as far as I know: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=sr_1_14?crid=BW1G4KR3LB1C&dchild=1&keywords=slim+graphics+card&qid=1595000566&sprefix=slim+graphi%2Caps%2C182&sr=8-14

It won't run most games at 1440p/60Hz, but it will be pretty solid at 1080p/60. Do you have that monitor already, or is that something you're also looking to get?

This for example should work: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=pd_ybh_a_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=J8DYX5C214CAM70QJQ0P

But I encourage you to check very well before making any purchase, make sure it will work fine in your system

this is the right one right? https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1I603ZM3WKVG1&dchild=1&keywords=gtx+1650+low+profile&qid=1589156846&sprefix=GTX+1650+low%2Caps%2C152&sr=8-1

By low profile do you mean a card that only takes up 1-2 PCI case slots, or a card that is only 3.5 inches wide because the case is narrow?

The best low profile cards right now are the 4gb GTX 1650s, there are several brands that make one including MSI, Zotac, and Gigabyte. Here's the MSI version:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZTXYVMN

There's also the RX 550 which comes in a 2gb and 4gb version:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DLTH1YT

And you can always check out the GTX 1030, or a used 1050 or 750 ti.

Aside from GT 710 and GT 1030
There's also gtx 1650 low profile like this one
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3AALAK86E645F&dchild=1&keywords=1650+low+profile&qid=1600101293&s=electronics&sprefix=1650+low+%2Celectronics%2C353&sr=1-2

not sure if its in your price range or if the case has enough ventilation for it tho

Yeah those games on high settings, including a monitor is impossible. You're basically at $300 between tower and graphics card.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Elite-6300-SFF-Desktop-i5-3570-3-40GHz-8GB-500GB-HDD-Windows-10-Professional/174064034515

This is absolutely the way to go at the moment. i5-3570, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, Chassis, Power Supply, Windows 10 Pro for $100.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/

GTX 1650 for $188. Normally they'd be like $160, but yeah demand for computer parts has gone up. Low profile cards specifically are the only ones that'll fit in a small form factor chassis. Between this GPU and the rest of the hardware you have the power to run the games you speak at medium-high settings. Assuming you can keep your RAM utilization below 8 GB.

Fair amount of monitors around $40 on Ebay, might not be surprised to find some cheaper at a Goodwill.

I just found a thread with someone on Reddit using the 1650 in a 8300 SFF with a 240w PSU and it runs fine according to them:

https://www.reddit.com/r/htpc/comments/e2ibba/msi_geforce_gtx_1650_low_profile_in_a_hp_8300/

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As the other person mentioned, make sure you're getting the base model that does not require the extra power connection. IIRC, for 1050 Tis, there are some versions that have the extra connection port but it is not required to be used so you'll need to research the model you are looking at specifically . This 1650 LP does not have an extra connection so it should work. I don't think that any LP cards have a supplemental power slot.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/

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Also, in regards to getting another PSU, be aware that HPs use proprietary PSUs and if you are upgrading (probably not necessary for this anyway IMO), make sure it is compatible with your particular HP model. If yours is an HP 8300 CMT, AFAIK, there are no compatible models larger than 320w.

Otherwise, if you get a standard PSU, you'll have to get adapter cables and there may be other potential issues as well IIRC.

What you are looking for is referred to as Low-profile--

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbQvABbhZP4

Oh ok, Currently I use the Intel i7-3770 @3.4 GHz. Hope that it won’t be bottlenecked. Also the GPU that I have in mind is one of these;

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9tzlFbKMSZSZM

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087R7V2Q6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gwzlFb40BNXMD

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CYDH8MD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YwzlFbMWD3NDS

Which one of these would be better? I can’t decide and most of them seem the same to me. Also would it be better to get a GTX 1650 or buy a 1050 Ti LP card?

Here’s the 1050Ti LP that I found:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WWLWWJM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EyzlFbS5NVQ5K

Once again, Ty for the help.

For your use case you could probably get away with something much cheaper, but to answer your question, I would probably get a GTX 1650 low profile (about $150-160) (pros being that it is modern, doesn't require additional power, and can be repurposed into a newer smaller machine in the future).

Cheaper option would be a GT 1030 low profile (about $85, same pros but less powerful, a generation older)

More expensive option would be GTX 1660 Super (about $240, newest generation and more powerful, would be best for plex, as NVENC is supported, but requires extra power)

1650 low profile $160

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Graphics-Windforce-Gv-N1650OC-4GL/dp/B081L3PSGK/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=1650+low+profile&qid=1595276736&s=electronics&sr=1-1

1050 ti low profile $160

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-OC-4GT/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=1050+ti+low+profile&qid=1595276829&s=electronics&sr=1-3

https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650/intel-core-i5-2400-3-10ghz/high/?lang=en&currency=usd

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\~100FPS on high settings on Overwatch for example with that setup I suggested...

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\~60-70FPS on low settings with the 3200G

\https://youtu.be/n6-uiWZh3UU

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GG no re...

i5 3rd gen with SSD and 8 GB ram...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073C5SM86/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_c8DoFbYQ5P561

160

1650 low profile

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_a9DoFbWHJDEGJ

160

320 total. Hey 30 bucks to buy a mouse.

Note that the i5-3570K and i5-3570 are functionally identical (other then the iGPU, which you won't be using anyway): https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=65702,65520

Since that motherboard won't support any overclocking, the k-CPU does nothing for you, might be better off getting the cheaper one (and you can likely find it for a lower price then this): https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Quad-Core-i5-3570-LGA1155-3-40GHz-6MB-5GT-s-CPU-Processor-SR0T7/373137772189

The 1050ti low profile cards are pricey for what you get, but that's the trade off for low profile cards. If you're going to spend that much though, you might want to consider a GTX 1650: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Gaming-GeForce-GTX-1650-low-profile/dp/B07ZTXYVMN/

Also note that the motherboard doesn't support XMP, so make sure the RAM speed/timings you want aren't part of that profile.