MSI Arsenal Gaming AMD Ryzen 2ND and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 TOMAHAWK Max) (B450TOMAMAX)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WF6ZQST/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

114.99 on amazon. I don’t mean any hate, just wanna show you the price could be lower since it’s selling new for this price shown here. Goodluck with sale OP.

If you can spend a few bucks more you can get a 2060 for around $300 which is going to be better than the 1660 you have picked on the GPU. Also for the motherboard I'd go with the tomahawk Max instead. https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST

Image was too short I guess https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_kGMHEb3RQ3XN7

Make sure that the mobo you use has USB flashback. It's a gamble with the board working with the CPU if it doesn't. Good luck!

Edit: I'd use this Mobo with the larger case you're getting https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&pldnSite=1

Am I allowed to post amazon links?

The MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX will work with Ryzen 3000 CPUs:

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST/

link

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_WRzQEbSGYRG5C

The MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX is a great option, I've built with it before with no issues. It's what most people will recommend as a good all-around AM4 platform motherboard, as it has a decent feature set and great build quality for a relatively low price, especially when compared to any X570 motherboards.

The ram in your original list is fine. Sadly you can't use ddr3 ram in new motherboards.

Amd motherboards are confusing. The good budget motherboards are the b450 and b550 ones. The problem with the b450 ones is that they are cheap but need a software update to work with the 3700x. Some of the b450 ones won't work right out of the box because the update is not applied and cannot be applied because you need a supported cpu to be able to install the update.

This listing is just an example, but the ones that say that it works with 3rd generation ryzen CPUs (hence the '3' in 3700x) are the ones you want to get since the update is already installed.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST

This one is actually a pretty good motherboard if you want to check it out.

You could also get a b550 motherboard as well. These will always support the 3700x out of the box but are more expensive.

So would this msi max motherboard work do you think? Also, is it a motherboard that is good for my two memory sticks I have and my big bulky 2 tb hard drive?

MSI Arsenal Gaming AMD Ryzen 2ND and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Tomahawk Max) (B450TOMAMAX) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Ti1REbXMH6M1X

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Arsenal-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=b450+tomahawk+max&qid=1579394785&sprefix=b450+&sr=8-1

This motherboard is $115 and a great match for Ryzen 3600

For just a 3600, you don't need an expensive x570 motherboard. The MSI B450 Tomahawk Max would be more than fine. If you see a motherboard with the "MAX" branding on it, that means the bios is updated out of the box to support 3rd gen ryzen parts, which would include the 3600.

MinkOWar is right about the RAM, if you were to upgrade you would need to buy a kit of DDR4 RAM. I would recommend 16GB, as 8GB is just not enough in 2020. For Ryzen CPUs, RAM speed is important, so anything above 3000MTs speeds would be good.

As for whether or not Intel CPUs are overpriced, that is pretty accurate right now. For the same price as a Ryzen CPU, and Intel equivalent would generally get you less cores, lower efficiency, and worse stock coolers (Unless you get a K branded CPU, which would have no cooler at all). If you were to get a 3600, you would not need to buy a separate cooler, because the stock cooler AMD supplies is more than capable of cooling the chip.

Its says its the max version in parenthesis on the title area MSI Arsenal Gaming AMD Ryzen 2ND and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Tomahawk Max) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_-7YfEbJRKETY8

The MSI B450 Tomahawk Maxx is a good pick though it seems to be out of stock currently (though you can still order it on amazon).

Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST

2x8GB is the recommended option.

yes. either a x570 of b450 board. but only get a b450 board if it says ryzen 3000 ready on the box like this one. this is because the b450 boards were released with 2nd gen ryzen but they would still work with like a 3800x or 3700x. the x570 boards were released with the 3rd gen cpus and it wouldent matter which one you chose.

i see this one on amazon, is it the correct Tomahawk? it says arsenal gaming. Nevermind, its on backorder

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=sr_1_1?crid=33SUADDZ4LI30&dchild=1&keywords=b450+tomahawk+max&qid=1588610850&s=electronics&sprefix=b450+tomahaw%2Celectronics%2C158&sr=1-1

Is this a good mobo for it?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WF6ZQST/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

I'm shopping around for the b450 tomahawk max based on your recommendation. Of course it seems to be out of stock everywhere, but would this fit the bill? Thanks so much!

Amazon has it https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=b450+tomahawk+max&qid=1590616233&sprefix=b45&sr=8-1

Are these the ones that are sold out? I just ordered this one a couple of hours ago.

Looks like in stock at Amazon for $115. Can someone confirm the same model?

It's not that noisy. Inside a case on idle and light task is mostly quiet. If you're wearing headset while gaming, you can barely hear it.

MSI b450 MAX is a good mobo.

I played control while opening discord, 10 tabs of chrome, skype on background, itunes, it's all under 16gb.

the money you save from going b450 and 16gb ram can buy you a good 1440p 144hz monitor

Is this motherboard wifi compatible? If not, whats a good wifi flashdrive and/or thing to connect to motherboard to make it compatible?

Definitely either go with the B450 Tomahawk MAX which is 3rd gen ready, or switch to a 2nd gen Ryzen processor.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Arsenal-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=b450+tomahawk+max&qid=1577823317&sr=8-2

Hope this helps!

Look for any motherboard that has "MAX" after it, they're all guarenteed to come with the correct BIOS for a Ryzen 3000.

The poster child of B450 motherboards for Ryzen 3000 chips is the MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX, which is actually cheaper than the one you're looking at. It's a great motherboard all-around, and it's guarenteed to work with your CPU out of the box, without needing a BIOS update.

Tomahawk max always gets recommended for budget board that’s still good. Pretty good VRM for the price.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Arsenal-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk/dp/B07WF6ZQST

MSI Arsenal Gaming AMD Ryzen 2ND and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Tomahawk Max) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7FNdEbSKX57BF

Already updated and pretty much the standard recommendation you’ll get on here.

B450 motherboards require a newer BIOS to be installed in order to work with 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs.

MSI makes a B450 Tomahawk and a B450 Tomahawk Max.

The Tomahawk Max comes with a new enough BIOS that it will support 3rd gen Ryzen CPUs out of the box.

If you choose a B450 motherboard that doesn't have a new enough BIOS installed, it won't work with the Ryzen 3600. Specifically, you'll need an older generation CPU available so that you can install the newer BIOS on the motherboard to get it to work with the 3rd gen Ryzen 3600.

It looks like the Tomahawk B450 Max is just $3 more on Amazon compared to the Tomahawk B450. Other than the newer BIOS version already being installed, I think it's pretty much the same motherboard.

If you go fr the MSI b450 Tomahawk Max Motherboard you wont have to deal with a bios update to support Ryzen 3rd gen. I think it’s currently at 115$

Edit: here’s the amazon link for it https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_kNqKEbNRWEST4

I did not know that but I kind of thought it would be okay to do so, I’m not overclocking my mobo but I am getting a new one as well, it is this one: MSI Arsenal Gaming AMD Ryzen 2ND and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Tomahawk Max) (B450TOMAMAX) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_e7pLEbGMDF122

I will not over clock anything most likely. I am a little confused at what you’re saying though

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=girgammal-20&ie=UTF8&linkId=74151540e4d1039d868ae9bbd8913b6c

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So the compatability error is because that MB is not compatible with the Ryzen 3000 series out of the box. To fix this, you could either flash the bios, or get a MB that is compatible out of the box. My recommendation would go with an MSI Tomahawk Max as it is around the same price and is ready out of the box for that cpu.

Link: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST

Yeah thats a board made for the 2000 series so its no possible to know exactly if it will work out of the box with the 3600. This board and all MSI MAX boards work with ryzen 3000 out of the box. They are also very good boards for the price.

[MSI Arsenal Gaming AMD Ryzen 2ND and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Tomahawk Max)] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_bQxEEbAD3GF52)

Widely regarded as one of the best performing B450s and the best value.

If you're still looking, this link says it'll be restocked June 11 if you can wait that long.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WF6ZQST/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=

BROOO ive searched long long time its the tomahawk max here it is my guy let me know if it works :D good luck !!!!!!

I had recommended this board for my buddy's build and it was only like 115 bucks. Now the only options are over 200! I hate this pc market rn. It's so frustrating to put a build together cuz every single category of part is having weird supply issues. https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=b450&qid=1591657086&sr=8-1

Absolutely, the GPU came out fairly recently and everything else should last a good while. The only thing I can't necessarily vouch for is is the PSU, however the reviews are decent. The motherboard should be able to handle an upgraded CPU, GPU, or RAM down the line if you saw that to be necessary. If you really want to ensure that your Mobo will last a while, I suggest checking out this https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST Although it is a bit more expensive, it is definitely worth the price, as you will be able to see by the reviews.

Don't worry about the RAM, it is perfectly fine and will work. It won't make a ton of difference by going for 3600mhz. So, go with it.

Both of these are in stock right now and can be delivered, just check if they are delivering to you. And both are very good parts and will be completely compatible will all other parts as well.

Motherboard: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=tomahawk+max&qid=1591796724&sr=8-1

PSU: https://www.microcenter.com/product/465460/evga-650bq-650-watt-80-plus-bronze-atx-semi-modular-power-supply

MSI Arsenal Gaming AMD Ryzen 2ND and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Tomahawk Max) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ILZxEbP7Q8MTR

Edit: Newegg - MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16813144267?m_ver=1

Thanks but is it not the same as

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST

this one? Also do you know if its worth it to invest in a new monitor?

Currently using

~~Dell s2340m~~ nvm im stupid yea im upgrading this shit to 144hz

Asus TUF B450-Pro Gaming Motherboard (ATX) AMD Ryzen 3 AM4 DDR4, HDMI, Dual M.2, USB 3.1 Gen 2 and Aura Sync RGB Lighting B450 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R4N68SR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ailIEbJGW03GG

MSI Arsenal Gaming AMD Ryzen 2ND and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Tomahawk Max) (B450TOMAMAX) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HilIEbGAFGPXC

You can use the extra money to get a rtx 2060

Awesome, thanks. I'm gonna do Amazon because they deliver quickly to my house. To confirm: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-B450-Tomahawk/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=MSI%2BB450%2BTOMAHAWK%2BMAX%2BATX%2BAM4%2BMotherboard&qid=1586790621&s=electronics&sr=1-1&th=1

and this processor:

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-12-Thread-Unlocked-Processor-Motherboard/dp/B07STGGQ18?th=1

Yes?

Don't know why it's labelled different, but here's a Tomahawk MAX in stock.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WF6ZQST/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=

Keep an eye on /r/buildapcsales, restocked Tomahawk MAXs are being posted several times a day.

EDIT: nevermind, it says in stock June 11

This is the motherboard, was wondering if it'll work without a bios update. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WF6ZQST/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Motherboard: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF6ZQST

Also maybe a better PSU: https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-ga-220-ga-0650-x1-650w/p/1HU-00J7-004V5

-$35: Ryzen 5 1600 AF for $85. It's basically a 2600 and performs similarly.

+$4 more for the B450 Tomahawk MAX with the larger BIOS chip and Ryzen 3000 support in case you decide to upgrade the CPU in the future. With the non-MAX board, you're forced into using a cut-down version of the BIOS.

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-X570-AORUS-PCIe4-0-Motherboard/dp/B07SVRZGMX

also if you want a little better value and you don’t need pci gen 4 nvme drives, get a tomahawk max for cheaper

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-Tomahawk-B450TOMAMAX/dp/B07WF6ZQST