I want to buy Eero for the first time but I'm not sure I'm getting the correct thing?

I just bought this one. Is that right?

All I currently have is the router that the ISP provided. I'm starting from 0 with mesh systems. I'm not very tech savvy and I'm not sure if this is the correct package to get, or if I'm missing anything.

So this includes the router replacement and two beacons for other rooms right? Or do I need something else?

All of the youtube tutorials show one larger router-thing and then 2 smaller beacons, and it looks like all three of these are the same. But maybe this is just a newer model?

Thank you!

Correct, and that is why if there's any chance you may to bring wired backhaul into the mix, it's best to go all non-Beacon Eero, either the regular Eero dual-band or Eero Pro tri-band. For you, dual-band will probably be best.

I'd recommend a 3-pack of eero mesh units.

First, there are 3 nodes, so you have an "extra" one to play with to provide needed coverage.

Second, you can mix wired and wireless nodes for meshing. This isn't true for all mesh on the market, where wired nodes lose the ability to backhaul other nodes.

Third, eero is dead simple to set up, and then administer themselves from then on. Truly set-it-and-forget-it, perfect for grandparents.

Fourth, they seem to be on sale right now. At least in the U.S. Normally $249, now on sale for $199, which is the lowest price I've seen on them.

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=eero&qid=1596812647&s=amazon-devices&sr=1-1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WMLPSRL?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This is the setup I had bought.

I got the eero mesh router which I’m super happy with because I have a long narrow apartment so it was hard for one router to hit all rooms. And a really easy setup!

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL

The regular ones have wired ports. You can get a 3 pack for $200. You can manage them from you phone too.

Amazon eero mesh WiFi system – router for whole-home coverage (3-pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_.DqLEb4XFPTEG

I have two pros and two regular ones which are all connected over wired connections and it works great. Four is massive overkill for my setup, but I just like the system.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_.6rHFb609VCMB

Deal link: Amazon

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That entirely depends on how much you intend to spend.

My personal opinion on 802.11ax is fairly cut and dry- unless 75% or more of the devices on your network support the standard, there is no reason to spend more than double on an AX system than an AC one. Unless your house is over 6,000 SQFT (or built in the early 1900s with plaster in the walls), you won't really benefit from AX.

I try to only recommend what I've seen, and along that vein, the $250 Amazon Eero System is what I'd recommend. I know Netgear makes one as well called Orbi, those are the two that I trust. I've ran into issues in the field with the Google/Nest versions, where the modem is provisioned for 986/45 and the Nest router only provides ~200/45.

I've been to multiple houses with the Eero system, and I've assisted in setting them up numerous times- seeing 600mbps down in each room of a 3 story house is pretty sweet. It does require using a smartphone app to configure, though.

For easy setup and usage, grab an eero 3-pack for ~$200. They should be smarter than the m5 system you have and provide a more stable connection.

For fastest WiFi, you'll need network adapters with 4x4 MIMO and 802.11ac in them. Laptops have 2x2 MIMO, premium smartphones have 2x2 MIMO, and most mobile devices have 2x2 MIMO. You'll never be able to get the full 1 gig through that, much less a mesh network. You can't get 1 gbps through a gaming router's WiFi over the 3000 sqft of your house either, only if you were next to the router at all times. Then you may as well connect an Ethernet cable and not deal with WiFi.

Thanks. Is this the model you are referring to?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_F7NEFb97TY683

Update: The network situation has gotten worse due to the shelter-in-place. More of my roommates are streaming more often now and I have to factory reset the R6700 almost every day (if not every other day). I still can't test via hard connection through Ethernet just because our living situation/physical living space is so messed. I'm thinking about your easy option which is to buy an Eero. Which Eero is recommended? It seems like all my choices are the meshed routers, even though you said I don't need an Eero meshed router.

Also, I'm reading this review about not getting dual band and the user recommending tri band:

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=eero&qid=1588113494&sr=8-1&th=1

Is this Eero a dual band router? Would I run into any issues?

Can’t help you much with that but here to tell you that the 3 pack is on sale right now on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL

Amazon eero mesh WiFi system – router for whole-home coverage (3-pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9A2UEb7BNVP4G these ones

I second eero recommendation. Very easy setup! Excellent phone support if you need any help! Costco has a 2 pack. A little over your $200 budget for $270 but you will not regret this purchase. Feel free to ask me any questions about eero if you like. I have had them in my home for several years and zero dead spots.

There is a less powerful version than the pro models and amazon has 3 pack for $200 spot on your budget. I have not tried this version but with 3 units you could spread them out better.

For 1000 sq ft I would go with the 2 eero pro. It has a third radio just so two units can talk to each other wirelessly. No need to wire them together. The 3 pack will also work wirelessly but shares the 2 radios with your devices. And 3 units is likely too much for small home. 2 with one unit upstairs and one down should give you amazing coverage. The Costco pro pack also gives you 1 year eero secure a $100 value for free.

Amazon eero mesh WiFi system – router for whole-home coverage (3-pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_u6DMEb7XMQBGF

Don’t go the extender route! Mesh is so much better! Extenders create separate SID and you have to manually switch between them. Eero were designed from the ground up and work orders of magnitude better.

Ubiquiti is a great product but you need technical networking knowledge to manage well. I think they may now have a more consumer model but I have no experience with it. I recommend eero to my friends and family and folks love them. I am also working from home along with my wife. We are programmers using computer all day with no issues on eero.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_api_i_YnrFFbDYV1BZM

dont have one but looking at this https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL

Get yourself a mesh wireless solution, as that will improve your overall wireless signal and allow for improving the signal elsewhere. This one is close to your budget:

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL

$199.

To help me understand, when you say internet cable, do you mean Coaxial cable (kind tvs mostly use) or ethrnet. You mention splitting, so I'm thinking coaxial.

How many SSIDs (wifi names) are being broadcasted?

Depending on time, money and energy you want to commit you can:

Simple cheap: Setup a repeater. This basically just takes the existing weakish wifi ssid and broadcasters it in its area. So essentially your creating a chain. Heres the first Amazon hit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0195Y0A42/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_rOccEb70AQ0T0

Kinda simple: Get a mesh router setup. This will probably involve messing with your router config (bridge mode and/or removing NAT, ssid broadcast, etc) but there are plenty of how to guides you can follow. Many of the top players have stake in this field now so prices vary. I've used eero befor, liked it for its ease of use but not for its advanced use. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_.SccEbBHCYQVS

There are tons more options but I think the above will be your best bet.

Take a look at Mesh networks. Those can be distributed around the house to ensure a stronger signal strength between the ONT or modem to your PC.

Amazon eero mesh WiFi system – router replacement for whole-home coverage (3-pack) https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=Mesh+Network&qid=1596996036&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExT05PRjNSSEk2Uk5JJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDExMTk3M1AzTFdQVFpTUlU2NyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTQzMTU1MUJCMU1HTDQ0WEdHUiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Looks there are different names for the product's versions, eero, eero pro, eero 5, eero 6 etc

How do we know what version of eero of this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WMLPSRL/? Is it worth wait for the new eero 6?

I would recommend a 3-pack of eeros (https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=eero&qid=1581916258&sr=8-3) currently on for a sweet deal.

They will give you a unified SSID and eeros TrueMesh system is really next-level in terms of reliability. Orbi uses a dedicated band for backhaul whereas the eeros use both of the bands for the wireless backhaul, whichever will provide a faster and more reliable link at any given moment.

Regarding the increased crowdedness of 5Ghz, see this note from one of eeros engineers

>...they do automatic channel selection that's rather involved. There's a whole algorithm (that we use on all three supported bands) to find the least congested piece of air

Basically meaning eero changes its channel dynamically on a per-packet basis to ensure it is dodging any (not just Wi-Fi) congestion that's in the air.

Amazon eero mesh WiFi router https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WGJ8ZD3/

Get this.

If your house is big get this:

Amazon eero mesh WiFi system – router for whole-home coverage (3-pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WMLPSRL/

Amazon Eero mesh

Ok, I guess I got a little lost when you said the pro-model totally washes the Nest?

Just to be sure, this is what I should get?

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=eero&qid=1588459014&sr=8-1

It looks like you are looking at the Eero Pro which does run $300, but if you need something more basic you can get the basic Eero three pack for $199: https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=eero&qid=1588345556&s=amazon-devices&sr=1-1

TP Link has a variety of mesh devices that are even less than that.

When you say "plug in", do you mean plug into an ethernet jack, or like plug into an electrical outlet?

I'm not referring to the 6's though.

3 eero @ $249 and 3 eero Pro @ $499

> Eero mesh/Eero mesh pro

is it any of these? https://www.amazon.com/System-Saving-Management-Outlet-Without/dp/B08D6VK54X/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=Eero+mesh%2FEero+mesh+pro&qid=1608532260&refinements=p_72%3A1248879011&rnid=1248877011&s=electronics&sr=1-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzSkdHTE9SNzNYVDFOJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTcyOTYwMTBGWVBFRUxDOEtRUSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDUzMzA1U0VHOFpPOE9ETDVXJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=Eero+mesh%2FEero+mesh+pro&qid=1608532260&refinements=p_72%3A1248879011&rnid=1248877011&s=electronics&sr=1-5

This is interesting, 3 pack eero for $199. https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=eero&qid=1587763778&sr=8-1

Ok well it looked like it was a powerful one. Don’t know much about gaming routers. At any rate you can get a still get good deal on a factory refurbished router on Amazon. I’ve never had any trouble with any refurbished routers from Amazon in the last 20 years. Here’s the one I’ve had now for 3 years:

Linksys AC1900 Dual Band Wireless Router Max Stream EA7500 (Renewed) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N6GVJ87/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_AbZpFb67M7T4F

My kids recently purchased a 3200 sq ft 3 story house and they got a Eero Mesh. They put one on each floor. Now they have great coverage throughout.

Amazon eero mesh WiFi system – router replacement for whole-home coverage (3-pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8nZpFb2ZZEX7F

Thanks for confirming that, I really appreciate it.

I need some further clarification, though:

I was reading this other post I found when searching this sub, and apparently configuring IP Passthrough on the Pace 5268ac gateway means that you can no longer connect devices to its Ethernet ports EXCEPT for the mesh wifi system (and therefore, to get the other devices on your network online, you simply connect them to the Ethernet ports on the mesh wifi system).

Why is that? The video shows that both the Pace 5268ac and the secondary router are drawing IP addresses from two separate DHCP pools to prevent IP conflicts. Or is it important for all the network devices to get IP addresses from the secondary router so they can "see" each other on the network? (sorry, my lack of networking knowledge is showing)

Again, thanks for taking the time in clearing this all up.

edit: Also, I'm really steering towards the Eero Mesh system since you mentioned it. However, what's the difference between this and this besides price?

I don’t use one myself as I have everything hardwired. Different models may or may not have an Ethernet port, usually only one per satellite if they do. However modern WiFi adapters adapters are just as good as having an Ethernet connection nowadays.

Modems are fine. You hear a lot of shit about the hitrons and puma this puma that but no one ever cites the actual outcomes of these puma 6 class actions... https://www.nexttv.com/news/lawsuit-targeting-netgear-modem-dismissed-415289

And I saw a hitron with an uptime of 254 days today, customer called in about a completely unrelated issue. My modem is an X5 with a puma chipset as well, zero latency issues.

The router is a completely different matter. There are serious flaws with the current flagship router that spectrum uses, and what you replace it with depends on what features you want.

Do you want something that you can use as a tool to learn about networking, has expandability via mesh networking with access points, and has a shit ton of tools to monitor your network?

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UniFi-Dream-Machine-UDM-US/dp/B081QNJFPV/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=unifi+dream+machine&qid=1599722269&sr=8-1

Do you want something that is solid, but very user friendly and also expandable via mesh?

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=eero&qid=1599722302&sr=8-1

Do you want something that for the cost is really good value and has decent features, but is by no means a racehorse?

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC1750-Smart-WiFi-Router/dp/B07KGH7R5X/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=tp+link+archer+a7&qid=1599722349&sr=8-5

Something that's just crazy powerful?

https://amplifi.com/alien

You can get the three pack of the eeros, not the extender or beacon.

Here are examples:

Eero gen 2 (3-pack)

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=eero&qid=1606256844&sr=8-3

Eero gen 2 Pro (3-pack)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071DWXLYL/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_YLyVFbXP6EZZN?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Eero 6 Pro (3-pack)

https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-eero-pro-6-3-pack/dp/B085VNCZHZ/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=eero&qid=1606256844&sr=8-7

There's such a wide variety of routers that you can get and it really depends on your budget and the feature set you want.

You can go all the way from near-Enterprise class routers like this:

https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/unifi-dream-machine

to Prosumer level routers like this:

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-R7900P-100Nar-Nighthawk-X6S-AC3000/dp/B07Q8Y7D4F/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=netgear+nighthawk&qid=1585691235&sr=8-6

to consumer level routers like this:

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Dual-Band-Super-Fast-Gigabit-RT-ACRH13/dp/B0845P5H7T/ref=sxin_3_ac_d_pm?ac_md=1-0-VW5kZXIgJDEwMA%3D%3D-ac_d_pm&cv_ct_cx=asus%2Brouter&dchild=1&keywords=asus%2Brouter&pd_rd_i=B01LXL1AR8&pd_rd_r=59c850cc-cd8e-4bda-8de8-06ba810532c9&pd_rd_w=cY1ND&pd_rd_wg=tHaMk&pf_rd_p=0e223c60-bcf8-4663-98f3-da892fbd4372&pf_rd_r=PD1F2HCSGF86AX28AVAK&qid=1585691265&sr=1-1-22d05c05-1231-4126-b7c4-3e7a9c0027d0&th=1

and even the newer mesh routers like this (if you have a wider area to cover):

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-eero-mesh-WiFi-system-3-pack-/dp/B07WMLPSRL/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=mesh+router&qid=1585691316&s=electronics&sr=1-3

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All of those support VLAN tagging and pppoe that you would need with a Centurylink connection. The trade offs pretty much come down to speed, number of connected devices, and distance.