Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All
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Now a National Bestseller! Climate change is real but it’s not the end of the world. It is not even our most serious environmental problem. Michael Shellenberger has been fighting for a greener planet for decades. He helped save the world’s last unprotected redwoods. He co-created the predecessor to today’s Green New Deal. And he led a successful effort by climate scientists and activists to keep nuclear plants operating, preventing a spike of emissions. But in 2019, as some claimed “billions of people are going to die,” contributing to rising anxiety, including among adolescents, Shellenberger decided that, as a lifelong environmental activist, leading energy expert, and father of a teenage daughter, he needed to speak out to separate science from fiction. Despite decades of news media attention, many remain ignorant of basic facts. Carbon emissions peaked and have been declining in most developed nations for over a decade. Deaths from extreme weather, even in poor nations, declined 80 percent over the last four decades. And the risk of Earth warming to very high temperatures is increasingly unlikely thanks to slowing population growth and abundant natural gas. Curiously, the people who are the most alarmist about the problems also tend to oppose the obvious solutions. What’s really behind the rise of apocalyptic environmentalism? There are powerful financial interests. There are desires for status and power. But most of all there is a desire among supposedly secular people for transcendence. This spiritual impulse can be natural and healthy. But in preaching fear without love, and guilt without redemption, the new religion is failing to satisfy our deepest psychological and existential needs.
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8 points • BrownGuyInNewEngland
You might be interested in Apocalypse Never then. Lib friend bought it and seems to enjoy it so far
2 points • ztgarfield97
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1 points • the-unflattering-6
I'd like to add one: No scientist who studies climate change has given an apocalypse "deadline." The whole "we have X many years to save the planet" narrative is a total myth.
Source: https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Never-Environmental-Alarmism-Hurts/dp/0063001691
1 points • Tenacious_Dad
Sure
Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All https://www.amazon.com/dp/0063001691/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_400-Eb4J89X0Z
Has over 100 pages of scientific research footnotes and was written by a former hysterical environmentalist who finally started using his brain.
1 points • coolmandan03
You should read Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All by Michael Shellenberger.
1 points • LordCrag
https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Never-Environmental-Alarmism-Hurts/dp/0063001691
You should give it a read - you clearly have a different perspective however surely its a good idea to examine another view before wishing eternal suffering on someone. Right?
1 points • WithUnfailingHearts
Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All: Shellenberger, Michael: 9780063001695: Amazon.com: Books Would recommend, Michael Shellenberger write a lot of interesting articles on the subject too, not to mention he also helped work on the UN's IPCC. So he really knows his stuff.
1 points • empurrfekt
Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All
About the author: > Michael Shellenberger is a Time magazine “Hero of the Environment”; the winner of the 2008 Green Book Award from the Stevens Institute of Technology’s Center for Science Writings; and an invited expert reviewer of the next Assessment Report for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). He has written on energy and the environment for the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, Nature Energy, and other publications for two decades. He is the founder and president of Environmental Progress, an independent, nonpartisan research organization based in Berkeley, California.
1 points • KustomTiki
https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Never-Environmental-Alarmism-Hurts/dp/0063001691/ref=nodl_
Some reading for ya.
Don’t let the same kind of fear mongering used by JWs to manipulate you a second time
1 points • gonzoforpresident
Apocalypse Never is a great read by an award winning environmentalist (notably one of Times Magazine's Environmentalists of the Year in '08) and author of a precursor the the Green New Deal. Nearly every paragraph has citations to scientific literature or direct quotes from climate scientists... almost all disagreeing with the apocalyptic panic of people like Thunberg.
1 points • jsullivan914
While there’s always work to be done, take the sensationalism of the media with a grain of salt. Their main concern is to sell copies and generate page views, not portray science as accurately as possible.
I’d recommend a more nuanced scientific view that aligns with the comment above. Climate alarmism isn’t nearly as dire as the media makes it out to be. The book “Apocalypse Never” represents a balanced and constructive view of the path forward - in short, many factors are trending in the right direction and they need to be smartly built upon.
Link: https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Never-Environmental-Alarmism-Hurts/dp/0063001691
1 points • Edge_Administrative
Obviously you don't the truths. I'm not saying it doesn't exist but you don't know the truths. An environmentalist wrote a book. Here the link in case you want yo check it out. https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Never-Environmental-Alarmism-Hurts/dp/0063001691
1 points • Destroy_WithLove
The Climate Hysteria movement has always been a scam, and the narrative is crumbling faster than ever. Naturally, the alarmists are turning the volume to 11 on the doomsday forecasts.
Look at the data. Examine the evidence. Get a peek at the inside workings of climate-change cult. It'll give you an entirely different perspective
2 points • collumbustalley
You might also be interested in...
https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/2020/6/29/on-behalf-of-environmentalists-i-apologize-for-the-climate-scare
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2 points • prosperouslife
>Exactly this. I'm surprised more headlines aren't proclaiming what amazing news this is for the planet.
Some related bestsellers that just released this month False Alarm and Apocalypse Never
It will be interesting to see how governments handle the pension crisis. Liberal states overspent and tried to leverage their pension funds. Man that's a ticking time bomb and all those states will have to massively increase taxes in the upcoming months to stay afloat, much less pay pensions.
0 points • McMindfulness
This is very ironic.
Don't you hate it when people paint lockdowns skeptics as "maga-tards who don't think Covid is real"? Do you see the similarity in painting people who don't buy the most apocalyptic climate change scenarios as "not thinking that it's real"?
I understand that you didn't get a comprehensive rebuttal and assumed the downvotes you received meant that nobody here thought it was real or whatever, but to deny that there are similarities between the doom surrounding Covid and the endlessly prophesied doom surrounding climate change is very close-minded. The same forces that propagate Covid hysteria exist amongst those who claim the end is nigh every single decade for the past dozen decades.
As for myself I think climate change is very much a problem that we should deal with and that the environment is super duper worth conserving. From the bottom of my heart I believe that. I'm also increasingly skeptical of climate measures that harm the working class most especially while letting big corporations continue to thrive and do more harm as seen in France a couple of years ago. Notice a similarity?
This is a book written by a lifelong environmentalist who talks about the risk in portraying climate change as this unstoppable force and not as the manageable problem that it is. In being honest about the risks of global warming you can actually spur more people to action that in fact gets more done environmentally than scaring everyone shitless with the most doom-filled predictions. That causes resignation and makes things worse. Ah, another similarity.
1 points • donaldosaurus
\> And so my formal apology for our fear-mongering comes in the form of my new book, Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All.
Paragraph 19 before it becomes clear this is an advert for a book.
0 points • neiobi
Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All https://www.amazon.com/dp/0063001691/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_zBqhFbZCW2AD6
1 points • White_H0t
Stoics value rationality. That's a good place to start. Separating the "stories" from the facts.
First, analyze the claims being made. Who's making them? Do they have a track record of accurate predictions? What motives do they have? Who disagrees with them?
Certainly, the predictions sound horrible. In fact, the panic of impending climate catastrophe hasn't changed much in a very long time. And none of the predictions have come to fruition.
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Stoically speaking, it's a shameful waste of time and energy to get hysterical over nonsense.
1 points • dragger2k
This from 30 year climate activist and award winning author, Michael Shellenberger.
Michael Shellenberger is a Time Magazine "Hero of the Environment," Green Book Award winner, and the founder and president of Environmental Progress.
He is author of the best-selling new book, Apocalypse Never
0 points • CharlesBukakeski
For a good read from an environmentalist without the clickbait shit and a look at long-term solutions check this out. It's a very sober book.
https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Never-Environmental-Alarmism-Hurts/dp/0063001691
1 points • adam2718
In a capitalist society, environmental issues would be addressed via the same means as any other issue - by the principle of individual rights, including property rights. If you can objectively prove that some corporation violated your rights by polluting your air, river or groundwater then the government has every right to demand restitution. Capitalism does not mean "businesses can do whatever they want" - there is no right to violate the rights of others, including property rights.
That being said, most if not all the apocalyptic environmental claims you read about are, if not outright falsehoods, are blown entirely out of proportion. Baseless claims of climate disaster have been made and proven wrong for 50 years. There is no climate crisis: climate related deaths have never been lower in history; living standards have never been higher.
While the climate certainly is changing and human activities play a role, it is nowhere near the level of an existential threat. I recommend looking into Alex Epstein's The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels which outlines a capitalist approach to energy and the environment, and Michael Schellenberger's recent Apocalypse Never which details climate alarmism in general.
-1 points • telefawx
https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Never-Environmental-Alarmism-Hurts/dp/0063001691
Do you know more than these climatologists?