ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

[Mobo] ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Promontory | $60 on Amazon, delivery by Monday | Logical Increments Poor/Minimum Recommendation

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MWGKHR9/

this is the mother board

Both the ASRock B450M Pro4 and the ASRock B450M HDV R4.0 motherboards have the BIOS Ryzen 3000 series ready. They're go to motherboards for Zen 2 chips, especially when OP's are not going to be overclocking. And especially for the Ryzen 5 3600, as it can keep up with GPU's priced under $1000 without the need to OC.

I'm not exactly sure what makes you think they're not Ryzen 3000 ready or that they could need to be updated when they already are.

Don't you think that manufacturers know what people are gonna be using these motherboards for in 2020? They're not gonna ship you something that you're just gonna ship right back. Even their description pictures have been updated, and now show Ryzen 3000 series ready in them.

Visit this page... ASRock B450M HDV R4.0 Amazon Page. Check out the 5th picture.

If they were to ship you that very same Ryzen 3000 series ready ASRock B450M HDV R4.0 motherboard with that picture in that description, they're already shipping you something that is not as described. What makes you think they would they do that right now, in March of 2020?

While RAM is important, I'm still not sure what type of performance increase you think DDR4 3600 gives vs the DDR4 3200 in League of Legends using a Ryzen 5 3600/RTX GPU.

As for buying custom cables for a PSU, what does the OP need those for? You can try to use white as much as possible but that tiny white detail in a white case with black on it everywhere, is just unnecessary. $140 devoted to a PSU in a non-OC build is unnecessary in general.

:) https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=sr_1_3?crid=36WIHNEGBSMO6&dchild=1&keywords=asrock+b450m+hdv&qid=1607468372&sprefix=asrock+b450m+%2Caps%2C219&sr=8-3

You can OC on B450. If your looking for a cheap board, here is an Asrock board that I am using in a build and have no problems with an R5 2600 running at 4.1ghz. But if you are wanting to push things as far as they can go then you will want an X570.

Bought it in store at microcenter, this is the same board -> [Amazon Link] (https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9)

Same seller on an AsRock B450M board for $20 https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=asrock+b450m&qid=1579634385&sprefix=aseock+b450&sr=8-2

Also there is this one $65 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07MWGKHR9/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

AsRock B450m comes 3000 series ready for 59.99

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07MWGKHR9?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image

Any amd 450 chipset motherboard.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_fkeXEbRSSWY45

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B07MWGKHR9/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Can I mount this Amazon.com: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard: Computers & Accessories into this DIYPC Jax11-W White USB 3.0 ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Pre-installed Fan (ebay.com)

idk but you might be interested on getting mobo from amazon.

example: https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=b350&qid=1588308827&sr=8-2

Depends on what CPU manufacturer you have/want.

AMD has some decent ones for Ryzen - Gigabyte A320M-S2H or Asrock B450M-HDV for example.

I'm not really up to date on Intel side, but found MSI H310M Pro VDH

Either way, you're not going to get a high quality board for ~$50-60. These are going to be OEM bargain bin quality for basic consumer home/office prebuilt systems. Capable of some gaming, but not really built specifically for gaming.

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=sr_1_15?keywords=b450&qid=1578172908&sr=8-15

get this instead saving the 5 bucks isn't worth it to get a a320

Why not buy https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=ASROCK+B450&qid=1589010344&sr=8-1 ? It's just 60 bucks. One of the best 60 bucks boards out there.

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9

I would recommend to return the mono and cpu. You can get this https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-YD1600BBAFBOX/dp/B07XTQZJ28#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div

and this

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=b450m&qid=1579558151&sr=8-4

About the same price as your combo but far better value...

>It's worse than the 9100f ($72) in games

That statement is objectively false. A quick search on Youtube shows that a 3100 is about equal to a 9100F at 1080p with identical RAM speed and timings (<1% average FPS difference). If you want to use a 9100F like this, you'll have to buy a Z390 motherboard ($130+); a 3100 can do this with a cheap B450 ($70+).

A more accurate comparison can be seen here, where the 9100F is tested with 2400 MT/s memory, while the 3100 is tested with 3000 MT/s RAM. The 3100 comes out with a clear victory, having better average FPS, 1% lows, and 0.1% lows in every game tested (except for 0.1% lows in DOTA 2).

Comparing cost:

• 3100 ($99) + B450 ($70) + 2x8GB 3200 CL16 RAM ($58) = $227 (Edit: a B450m PRO4 has a much better VRM for a bit over $10 more.)
• 9100F ($72) + B365 ($75) + 2x8GB 3000 CL16 ($55) = $202—significantly slower (on average) than a 3100 when RAM is locked to 2666 MT/s.
• 9100F ($72) + Z390 ($134) + 2x8GB 3200 CL16 RAM ($58) = $264—equal (on average) in gaming to a 3100.

Buying a 3100 will give you significantly better upgradeability as Ryzen 3000 prices keep going down. In several years, someone with a 3100/B450 will be able to upgrade to something like a 3700X for less than $200. On the other side of things, prices for discontinued Intel processors rarely ever drop and often increase.

If you can find a 9100F for a really good price (\~$50), then it might be a viable option. However, with current prices and Intel's arbitrary RAM speed limitations on low-end motherboards, the better overall choice is the 3100.

el cheapo: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MWGKHR9/?tag=tchsptpf-green-20

great budget: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/b450-tomahawk

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the prices are outta whack, ill try to find more realistic pricing.

"while getting a cheap mobo doesn't leave enough money for a GPU upgrade anyway." -that's not true. as long as it's mobo is compatible with pice 3 , his GPU will run fine without loss of performance. -when i suggested a b450 or a320 , i didnt mentioned which. the b450 tomahawk max is expesive as well. the mobos i was talking about 1 of were those: https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GA-A320M-S2H-MicroATX-Realtek-Motherboard/dp/B079NYQQJJ/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=A320+motherboard&qid=1602491015&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-ProSeries-Motherboard-PRO-MAX/dp/B0822M7BS5/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-drs1_0?cv_ct_cx=A320+motherboard&dchild=1&keywords=A320+motherboard&pd_rd_i=B0822M7BS5&pd_rd_r=d3b1be8d-fa63-47c0-96ae-477e4c0ea91d&pd_rd_w=jjwwI&pd_rd_wg=PJoht&pf_rd_p=ecbfa24d-f48c-4d5c-83aa-9549f4e7c925&pf_rd_r=8CE8ES5EKMZFWTR1ES36&psc=1&qid=1602491015&sr=1-1-f6b8d51f-2c55-4dc3-89ad-0c3639671b2d https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=A320+motherboard&qid=1602491015&sr=8-7 https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450M-DS3H-Ryzen-Motherboard/dp/B07FWVJSHC/ref=sxin_9_ac_d_rm?ac_md=0-0-YjQ1MCBtb3RoZXJib2FyZA%3D%3D-ac_d_rm&crid=384UZPXUCZ473&cv_ct_cx=b450+motherboard&dchild=1&keywords=b450+motherboard&pd_rd_i=B07FWVJSHC&pd_rd_r=91c3582b-c68e-4af1-a383-50244bd332ed&pd_rd_w=d2bFG&pd_rd_wg=Av4Fn&pf_rd_p=fe2d64f9-a0d4-4c62-b195-55e240bc5b7e&pf_rd_r=TPBE5BVKV3KJ5S42EJSJ&psc=1&qid=1602490989&sprefix=B450%2Caps%2C290&sr=1-1-12d4272d-8adb-4121-8624-135149aa9081 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-ProSeries-Micro-ATX-Motherboard-PRO-M2/dp/B07XH4SK17/ref=sr_1_13?crid=384UZPXUCZ473&dchild=1&keywords=b450+motherboard&qid=1602490989&sprefix=B450%2Caps%2C290&sr=8-13

That a pretty decent amount! I personally recommend doing a CPU/Motherboard upgrade, maybe more RAM too. Within the last 3 months I rebuilt all PCs (3 total) in my house using Ryzen 3rd gen.

I upgrade my wife's PC with the following parts:

CPU - https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3900X-24-Thread-Processor/dp/B07SXMZLP9/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1QND8DJR8PCH4&dchild=1&keywords=ryzen+9+3950x&qid=1600532491&sprefix=ryzen+9+%2Caps%2C346&sr=8-2 (This CPU came with a pretty beefy cooler in my opinion)

Motherboard - https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=b450%2Bmotherboard&qid=1600532725&sr=8-3&th=1 (Although i recommend B550 because this motherboard (in the link) doesnt always come with the upgraded BIOS to support 3rd gen Ryzen)

Ram - https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07SNB3V77/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=ddr4+32gb&qid=1600532808&sr=8-3

Total cost = 600.97 (at least that's how much i paid)

CPU: R5 3600 $200
Motherboard $72
16 GB RAM $55
600 W PSU $55
1 TB NVME SSD $120
Case: Fractal Design Focus G $50
Total: $552

Given the announcement of how stupidly powerful the upcoming Nvidia 3000 series cards are, You'll probably be able to find a used 2070 or 2080 for $200 in the next several weeks, bringing total cost up to $750.

Playing and streaming on the same machine really benefits from multi-core CPUs with "hyperthreading".

I think your cost effective bet would be an Intel Core i7-9700K verses a Core i9-9900K which adds nothing to gaming benchmarks, but you should at least try gaming and streaming at the same time with your current setup before you spend any additional money.

Core i7-9700K vs Core i5-9400F

Ryzen 7 3700X vs Core i7-9700K

As you can see from the above comparison the Ryzen 7 3700X is a much more capable gaming/stream/multi-tasking CPU.

B450 motherboard for a Ryzen 7

If you do decide to go AMD then you'll also have to reinstall Windows and all of your other programs too.

i would recommend https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GA-A320M-S2H-MicroATX-Realtek-Motherboard/dp/B079NYQQJJ and https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07XTQZJ28 which is the AF Variant which runs nearly just as good as the 2600 and is about 1 FPS difference both together should come out under 180 with taxes but get this motherboard https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MWGKHR9?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 if you can spare the extra 50 or so as it would allow for more upgrades.

K so I changed my list and added some of the things you and other people have recommended to me. Here’s the list CASE Rosewill FBM-X2 Micro ATX Mini Tower Gaming PC Computer Case with 2 Pre-Installed Fans https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MDJ2RW8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_CSRyFbEF60T7T CPU AMD Ryzen 3 3100 4-Core, 8-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0876Y2TMZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6SRyFb9V2AK7D MOTHERBOARD ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_1TRyFbS6MF9TR MONITOR AOC 24B2XH 24" Full HD IPS Monitor, 3-Sided Frameless & Ultra Slim HDMI and VGA inputs, Lowblue Mode, VESA compatible,Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WVN1N8C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_KURyFbK37N4VC GPU MSI Computer Video Graphic Cards GeForce GTX 1050 TI GAMING X 4G, 4GB https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MA62JSZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_mVRyFbQ85CA0S PSU Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+ White Certified PSU, Continuous Power with 120mm Ultra Quiet Cooling Fan, ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0500NPCWUS-W https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014W3EM2W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ZVRyFbF7RJW83 RAM OLOy DDR4 RAM 16GB (2x8GB) 3000 MHz CL16 1.35V 288-Pin Desktop Gaming UDIMM (MD4U083016BBDA) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07X3YR9TK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_AWRyFbQH77CQW STORAGE Seagate BarraCuda 2TB Internal Hard Drive HDD – 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB Cache 3.5-Inch – Frustration Free Packaging (ST2000DM008) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H2RR55Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_bXRyFbA14R3B9

I don’t know if these links will work

Is this a good pc build?

CPU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XTQZJ28/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1K79P9EE4OAFI&psc=1

Mobo: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MWGKHR9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

GPU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082BXNYCQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Ram: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MTZN7ZD/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A26PVB3960EU85&psc=1

SSD: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PLNNDL2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A2UXO5LPTDY3LN&psc=1

Case: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079P1VBDY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

PSU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074ZDLGMK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

HDD: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H2RR55Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

This is my first PC build any help would be appreciated.

Sell the MB and CPU. Put money into cheap used 5-bay or greater case. Then get these things:

• https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=sr_1_36?keywords=amd+motherboard&qid=1584647018&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&sr=8-36&swrs=43BD9B8F4AF298B0597950D34306D4FD
• https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3200G-Unlocked-Processor/dp/B07STGHZK8/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=ryzen+apu&qid=1584647136&sr=8-2&swrs=9E15369CDF0ABD46D2F9AC2FD5A74315
• https://www.amazon.com/OLOy-288-Pin-Desktop-Gaming-MD4U083016BJDA/dp/B083NPX9TJ/ref=sr_1_6?crid=S8ZHG4SJ4DTD&keywords=ddr4+ram+16gb&qid=1584647209&sprefix=ddr4+%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-6
• https://www.amazon.com/IO-Crest-Controller-Non-Raid-SI-PEX40064/dp/B00AZ9T3OU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=sata+controller&qid=1584647263&sr=8-3

Span the drives across the controllers for performance. Never think about it again for the next six years.

Don't underbuild things; you'll always end up regretting it IME.

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|Video Card|Rx 480| https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-AMD-Radeon-RX-480-RX-480P4JFC6-4GB-GDDR5-SDRAM-PCI-Express-3-0-Video-Card/174240131716?epid=231957185&hash=item2891856a84:g:1f4AAOSwXeJYNXiW | |:-|:-|:-| |CPU|Ryzen 5 1600| https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07XTQZJ28/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=ryzen+5+1600&qid=1587527209&sr=8-1 | |MOBO| ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 AM4|amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=b450+motherboard&qid=1587528587&sr=8-3| |PSU|EVGA 500w |LINK IS WAY TOO LONG| |RAM|G.Skill Ripjaws V series 16 gb| https://www.ebay.com/itm/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-V-Series-16-GB-2400MHz-PC4-19200-DDR4-SDRAM-Memory/264707465959?epid=6021255919&hash=item3da1cb62e7:g:4QMAAOSwel9en00q | |SSD| Kingston 240GB A400 SATA 3 2.5"| https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-240GB-Solid-SA400S37-240G/dp/B01N5IB20Q/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=ssd&qid=1587528871&refinements=p_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A14027458011%2Cp_36%3A-4000&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-1 |

SUBTOTAL: 365 dollars